Warde Guildencrantz
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Posted - 2012.03.06 19:11:00 -
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Easiest way to fix the training issues. People are mad because they have to do extra training. The way of compensating for this is reducing the training time for each tree. The people who are complaining are cross trained into multiple things. That's why, below, you will see how this can be remedied fairly easily:
1. Make frigate skills 1x mutiplier instead of 2x
2. reimburse extra.
3. Leave destroyers at 2x.
4. Make Cruisers 3x. Reimburse.
5. Make Battlecruisers 5x. Reimburse.
lets see how much this saves.
Say you have all 4 races all to lvl5.
Frigates = 256000*4 reimbursed.
Cruisers = 256000*8 reimbursed
Battlecruisers = 256000 reimbursed.
= 256000*13 reimbursed.
Assuming you already have the battlecruisers skill to lvl 5, you get all the points left over after subtracting 256000 for change reimbursement. That's enough to get one BC skill back to lvl 5 already.
Lets see how much you need to have everything to level 5 with this change.
Destroyers all lvl 5 would need an extra 512000*3
Battlecruisers all lvl 5 would need an extra 1280000*3
3840000+1536000=5376000 = 21*256000
Now assuming most people don't need every single destroyer skill to level 5 (seriously...who uses caldari destroyers?), this value would be a fair bit lower. So, you end up with enough skill points to get 2 BC skills to level 5 after a single set of BC points (assuming you train destroyers to 4 first, not 5). You thus can instantly train 3 BC skills to max(including the one you were initially reimbursed for), when originally you only had 1 BC skill maxed with a 6x mutiplier, and 1 Destroyer skill maxed that had a 2x mutiplier.
People are angry about the proposed changes because it would nerf their ability to get in command ships (or perhaps interdictors). Well, to fly command ships you need to have cruiser 5 for that race anyways, so they will undoubtedly be affected by the reimbursement (512000sp per cruiser skill you have at 5) due to changing cruiser and frigate training times. Same thing with destroyer skills. If you are specialized into 2 races, and can fly 2 command ships, this means you have 2 cruiser skills at 5. Therefore, you will be reimbursed 512000sp*2 right away, along with a bit for frigates as well. This should be enough to cover training the BC skill for that race back up to L5. Reasonable?
Okay how about people who just want to fly the race's BC at level 5 skills? You only have cruisers to 4, and frigates to 4. Once again, if you are spec'd into two races, that means you will have some skill points left over from training both to 4 from reimbursement. This return should give you enough to cover at least a few days of training for that second BC skill once again (not to mention the destroyer skill). This would easily get both to level 4, however BC 5 in that race would not be initially achievable. This is understandable. You can't just spec into a race for lvl 5 skills instantly, so if you DID have that race fully spec'd you would have all the reimbursed points you need to lvl5 everything again. However, if only the destroyers and BC skills were at level 5, you won't be able to get them back to level 5 instantly, because you aren't truly spec'd into that race. It's pretty fair if you ask me.
I think that's a reasonable method of reimbursement, and a reasonable change to skill speed. Since you HAVE to go through destroyers and HAVE to go through battlecruisers to get to battleships now, its only reasonable to reduce training times to compensate. It isnt reasonable to reduce capital ship requirements and say this makes training more reasonable. 90% of eve players dont fly capitals, we don't want easier time training into them, we want an easier time training through subcaps.
There might need to be a little bit more though. Maybe just giving all the destroyer skills and battlecruiser skills at 5 would work out after all.
EDIT: soundwave said nah, we are just gonna give all lvl5. Fair enough. |